instead, he is allowing these outside groups like alec and other insiders like dick devos, very rich corporate ceo types. and they're not going to be successful in beating back workers. we're going to show that it's actually energizing our base. and people are saying that they're angry about it. >> what was the name you put out? what was his name? dick what? >> dick devos. >> that's the amway guy. >> yep, that's right. >> okay. >> and governor snyder seems to have more -- he seems to pay more attention to him than he does the citizens of the state. and that's very unfortunate. >> moving forward here, the only option you have here is 2014. congressman, in some way could this really solidify democrats going into a midterm where they're going to be needed? >> i think it will. it's going to energize people who understand that we had a governor who said that he was about bringing people together, and instead he is driving a major wedge in our state. at a time when our economy is recovering as a result of the auto industry recovery, and all the work that president obama has done, at a time